Bus lanes could be returning to Liverpool after decade-long suspension

Do not do this Liverpool. You will finish up like Manchester with congestion and empty bus lanes for hours on end.

And so it begins. The predicted 15 minute city , except you also need trams, many more buses and an awful lot of organisation. All this will do is annoy a lot of people.

It’s a good start. Any authority taking buses in house should be focusing on route efficiency otherwise no one uses them.

Manchester should take note.

More chaos from LCC, are they going to consult with other road users?
Bus lanes should be in roads where there is room for other vehicles to travel and not create bottlenecks, Picton road was one example.
Not everyone wants to use the bus or cycle because of different reasons so don’t impose it on everyone, no matter if its your reason for being.

Let the fines commence! This will be chaos – will there be a bedding in period where we are given a chance to make mistakes. The buses never come.

Why would you do this – after they were dropped 10 years ago?

@ Elephant – Manchester has congestion because the population is growing and more people are driving. Once the London style bus network effect with cheaper travel there will be less congestion.

Here come the Moany Motorists again! Never happy, and never willing to share the road with other uses.

Our leaders go on visits to Austria and Germany and WEF meetings and come back full of bonhomie and good ideas and think ‘ooh we can do that’ . We can’t.

I like sharing the pavement with other pedestrians.They moan too though , I hate it that they won’t share, what with my wooden leg and everything. I stood by the Mersey at midnight, my lip was all a quiver, I gave a cough,my leg fell off and floated down the river.

Won’t end well this. If they are serious about taking cars off the road upgrading the rail network and opening new stations.

zero requirement or appetite for bus lanes to return. This is a classic example of the total disconnect between LCC and the people they are supposed to serve . Its particularly flawed as they were removed having been clearly seen as creating problems not solving them.
Do they not have a proper job to do , for example attracting business like Manchester has successfully done , what about the cruise line terminal and numerous other assets that can benefit the city.
As with their numerous commissioned survey its all hot air , anything but get stuck into real issues !

Barrington and O’Brien were responsible for the chaos of last years car-free day.
People won’t get out of their cars till we replace buses with trams, also Merseyrail only serves a minority portion of the City Region and though Baltic Station is welcome we need a lot more than that, as there is no Merseyrail in East Liverpool while tracks lay abandoned.
All this empty talk of a London style transport system when you have to wait 30 mins for a train after 7pm.

A new Baltic station is very welcome, but Liverpool needs another 20 stations at least and new lines on Merseyrail, many suburbs do not have access, such as Kensington, Toxteth, Wavertree etc. Getting people on the train and off the road has to be the quickest option as trains do not get stuck in traffic plus the economic benefits to the city and local areas will pay the outlay back very quickly.

Yes let’s cycle on the dangerous roads fully laden down by the weekly shopping…. crazy

Cars will be most zero emissions in 10 years so why do they want us “out of our private cars”! This is just a control measure

I thought they found the abolition of the bus lanes made no difference to traffic congestion

The roads are a disgrace as it is and we are still suffering from the alterations made due to the arrival of the Tram. We have a train network but we have been waiting for new trains for years. As a cyclist, the ‘bike lanes’ are a disgrace and closing the Strand during Covid was a joke with a lane of a few hundred yards then painted lines on the pavement until the Albert Dock. The bike lanes around the Baltic and Princes are dangerous and pointless. Essentially, the transport plan is a joke and it appears they are doing things to sound like they are doing their part. Bus lanes proved to be pointless as are cancelling the bus routes to the business district e.g. 86D & 82D. Nobody wants to walk from Liverpool One Bus Station to St Paul’s Square in the depths of winter. Essentially, the transport plan is a joke and it appears they are doing things to sound like they are doing something and it is the quickest win.

A recipe for gridlock and pollution and one of the quickest routes to killing city centre trade that I can think of. We already use Speke and Edge Lane for much of our shopping because of the cost of car parking in the city centre. Thing is, our councillors have no idea of commerce nor any understanding of consumer behaviour and will blindly and blithely virtue-signal their way to disaster.

And once again a particularly bad idea managed by people who have no idea is forced upon the people without consultation of the voters. Local authorities should remember they work for the people, not the other way round. If it was a bad idea before, why is it a good idea now?

What used to be bus lanes is now being used for parking cars in many instances and therefore there is no benefit.
Meanwhile has anyone experienced the bus chaos that occurs at Queens Square, where buses jostle to get near a stop and can take up to 10 mins to load up with passengers paying cash before the bus moves off, not least because the traffic lights are green for a few seconds.
If ever there was a case for a tram network this is it.

Silly idea the roads are congested enough. You wont force anyone who can afford it to travel by a bus. They’re awful.

Join the local community groups this Sunday in Wavertree Park to celebrate Car Free Day ….

Looking at some of the rain and storms we’ve had this week would you cycle to work,school , or the shops. Of course cycling is good but outside of London, Cambridge, or Oxford cycling is mostly for exercise or leisure , we do need cycle lanes but not everywhere. Cars will eventually be less polluting so that will help, but until we get the fantastic public transport systems such as they’ve got in the bigger European cities and towns then we will remain mostly car reliant.

The Council haven’t caught up with the fact that in 10 years most cars will be non polluting EVs and the only cost to driving will be someone’s time.

Good move.

Great start, let’s just hope the bus lanes are sufficiently extensive, coherent and convenient to force people out of their car like needs to happen. Needs to be supported by further anti-car measures and cheaper bus fares – I am confident all this will come in time. That way, Liverpool can start to become a modern city, on the journey that the likes of Copenhagen and Amsterdam begun 40 years ago when they were car-infested too.

@Phew, car ownership in Copenhagen has increased by 28% in the last 10 years.
In addition the public transport network in that city involves far more than buses, it has an impressive, modern metro which we don’t have in Liverpool. We are just getting rid of clapped out 40 year old trains on a so called metro system that only covers about one-third of the city region and on many lines goes into wind-down mode after 7pm. There is little sign of any significant extensions being announced by the Mayor in the coming years except for the odd station. I doubt therefore that bus lanes will be enough to get people out of their cars.

Why is everyone moaning about 15 minute cities, weirdos. They’re just adding bus lanes. If public transport works as it should, you shouldn’t need a car to get from Kirkby to Town. If you’re going to Birmingham or London fair enough, but a journey that short should be covered easily by bus. I urge everyone moaning about this to go to a big European city, like Amsterdam. Everything runs all the time, every 10 minutes for most of the day. Except during the night when it’ll go to every 30.