First look at Chorlton Shopping Centre regeneration
A planning application for PJ Livesey’s 200-home redevelopment of the Barlow Moor Road site is due early next year.
The developer, appointed by the Greater Manchester Pension Fund to lead the regeneration of Chorlton Shopping Centre in March, has teased what the completed scheme could look like with the release of the first CGI.
Designed by Feilden Clegg Bradley Studios and landscape architect Randall Thorp, the project aims to redevelop the 3.2-acre site into a “a thriving new neighbourhood”, according to the developer.
Around 20% of the homes – a mix of one-, two-, and three-bedroom properties – would be available on affordable tenures.
The updated masterplan for the site envisages the transformation of Barlow Moor Road into a “bustling shopping street”.
Flexible commercial space suitable for a range of operators will be provided at street level with apartments above.
A second round of public consultation on the proposals, which have not been universally popular among residents, has begun today.
Have your say on the proposals
The first engagement exercise was held this summer and generated more than 1,000 responses.
PJ Livesey managing director Georgina Lynch, said: “We were really pleased with the community engagement from the first consultation and we took on board what people were telling us.
“We believe this masterplan will create a thriving new neighbourhood to fit in with and enhance the existing community and we are looking forward to sharing ideas in detail at consultation sessions on site later this month.”
The scheme has been in the pipeline for more than a decade.
GMPF has owned the site since April 2014 when it bought it from Development Securities, now U+I, for £10m.
Prior to that, Altrincham-based developer Citybranch, along with Manchester City Council and Ask Developments, had aborted redevelopment plans in the 2009 recession and sold the site to Development Securities in 2011.
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By Balcony Warrior
Nice looking design. Please make sure all parking is at basement level and plenty of cycle parking facilities provided for residents and visitors.
By Anonymous
The height of the proposed development is out of proportion to the surrounding properties, and I am unclear whether there will be the same number of retail outlets compared with the present number.
By Andrew Simpson
Just get started with it Chorlton needs sorting out quicky,it looks so depressing and lacking in a decent central retail and leisure activities centre
By Caroline Durkin
Andrew Simpson – how do you propose we build the homes the country desperately needs whilst not exceeding two storeys? Do you believe should be forced to live underground just to keep homeowners happy? Or should we allow our cities to sprawl out into the countryside, losing it forever? Have some perspective please.
By Anonymous
The consultation info states that Graeme House is the reference point for max building heights, which seems fair. Low density in a location as sustainable as this would be criminal really.
By YIMBY
What is intended for the plethora of takeaways on Wilbraham road, that never seem to have a customer in them? Or the atrocious parking, or bus stops built out into the road slowing traffic. Most people avoid Chorlton it’s so scuffy.
By Anonymous
Will just be filled up with bars eating places same as the rest of Chorlton
By Anonymous
Oh gosh – it’s going to look like that monstrosity at the corner of Seymour grove : upper chorlton rd!! Too large will overpower the surrounding buildings
By Nae
It’s alright building all these properties but what about the impact on GP surgery’s, dentists & schools an of course the traffic. Manchester city council will be rubbing their hands because its more council tax and that’s all their interested in but services never improve.
By Emma
…if Balcony Warrior is happy, I’m happy! I’d buy a flat here.
By kl
The precinct needs redevelopment with apartments above,but I don’t like the idea of high buildings,I feel 2 or 3 at the very most is high enough. And,they wouldn’t fit in or look right in the surrounding area. Please keep the building low rise.
When you say affordable housing,arecwe talking about renting or buying & how much will the rents be or, the purchase of a property. I think.we need more affordable properties to rent in the area & not from private landlords either,which like to make a profit.
By Janice Partington
I have been a resident of Chorlton for 20 years and over the years have found it incredibly difficult to get a health appointment and see a GP at Chorlton Health Centre on Nicholas Road, the closest GP practice to the new development. With 200 new flats (at least 400 people or more) what are the plans to support this development for healthcare?
By Anonymous
Nice!
By Anonymous
Are there any plans for the building opposite the library, next to Chorlton House? It looks derelict.
By Deirdre McLaughlin
Chorlton side streets are FULL of parked cars. Now the only car park is being built on. What is the solution to this?! Doctors/dentists are also full! What is the plan for the appropriate infrastructure to support these new residents?
By Anonymous
Artistry of proposed looks is comparable to Hulme in the 80s, 90s…Will look shabby really quickly
By Klaudm
Bustling? Endless road works, frustrating traffic schemes, a third cycle lane arrangement (they will still ride on the pavement), fewer buses after Beeline and a car park run by the Keystone Parking STASSI all mean shoppers will go elsewhere or order online.
By R. Mark Clayton
I don’t really understand what YIMBY means by an area as sustainable as this. I agree with others about essential services eg schools, GPS and dentists. This lack of services has been going on for years, it seems that services are not factored in by developers but the hope is that GPs etc will want to come into places and establish themselves in the area. Where will they be located?
I had a walk round Chorlton yesterday, it’s run down, depressing, the precinct shops are hanging on. Lots of people rely on the craft shop, butcher ,greengrocer, qualitysave and others but what’s the betting that the rents will be too high for most. PS the CGI looks as if it’s all cafes ,not sure how that works for variety of shopping, where are these wide boulevards going to be exactly? Looks like great ancoats street on a good day, so many high rises and hotels you can’t see the sky any more.
By Ann
I broadly welcome these fresh plans, a once in a generation opportunity to transform the heart of Chorlton for the better, whilst providing much needed homes at the same time. The existing precinct is time expired, the full site was never well utilised from day one with the massive surface car park, and it sadly hasn’t seen any investment beyond the odd lick of paint in decades.
I do question the diminished volume of retail space however. It’s odd the previously mooted ‘quality food store’ has vanished, relative to the many earlier rounds of consultation, meaning that you’re still stuck if you wish to shop local.
Whilst Chorlton has an excellent array of independents, for a ‘full shop’, unless you spend your money in a dated, midsized over-trading Morrisons, which has barely changed since Safeway days or shop across Co-op/ Tesco/ M&S convenience stores, you need to go outside Chorlton for a reasonable shop – Sale, Altrincham, White City,
Salford, etc. Perhaps the withdrawal of the supermarket ties in with the vast majority of car parking being earmarked for residents, meaning you’d question whether Chorlton will actually benefit from increased footfall without an anchor store or perhaps that’s the plan?!
By Pragmatist
One picture is not a good 1st look. Full facilities for the new residents i.e. doctors,dentists health care. The full infrastructure for shops parking. Not seeing any of that. I’m all for updating and new housing, but again not mention of costs. We may approve now but it will still probably price the local people out the market and area.
By Anonymous
The shops will end up being used by the residents of the flats above.This is not a community setting at all. Your just pretending to make it community. The precinct looks abit dated but it’s definitely a place for the community to come together. The character of Chirlton will be totally diminished, and the heart ❤️ heart torn out. Graham House is the home of the pigeons, the car park needs to stay , flats for 200 people , more congestion. Why not modernise the precinct and turn Graham House into flats, for Chorlton residents at affordable prices .
By Anonymous
Keep Chorltons quirkiness we like it as it is just modernise the precinct part, maybe a fountain outside where quality save was cheaper rentals more greenery around the precinct. Graham House can be made into flats, without knocking it down. Plant more trees, plant more flowers, and safe alot of money and inconvenience, and make us Chorlton residents happy.
By Anonymous
Chorlton is no longer somewhere u can go shopping. it’s is now full of take-aways bars and restaurants
By Anonymous
They need to make sure all homes come with parking
By Anonymous
Absolutely awful.
By Chorlton's whisperer
What about carparking – now cycle lanes have taken away the little we had.
By Annie
Additional buses at peak times should be considered to support the influx of new residents. Public transport to and from work get very congested even now, particularly during term times. I do have reservations about the increased traffic this will result in. Agree also with concerns over the resources such GPs, dentists etc.
By Anonymous
Turn Grahame house into flats with the ground levels as shops. Plant trees, flowers. No need to tear everything down. Don’t increase the shop rents. Let the current shops have have a space when it’s done. Don’t waste money.
By Anonymous
Cheap looking character-less flatfaced high rise buildings and tarmac rivers of cycle land… lord help us!! I am out of here! By the way the cycle lanes and cycles are a red herring… we have an aging population how many people 60 – 70, can, or want to, do their weekly shop, socialising and general travelling by bike, how many families can do a weekly shop or a fraction of all they need to do on a bike? If you ferry people around how do you do that by bike? Who will take their kids anywhere by bike when it’s dark or cold or raining… If you’ve a chronic condition how are you going to get to appointments on a bike? When there are no local shops left people will use cars more than before. For most people cycling is for pleasure not necessity.
The most ecological shop in Chorlton, Unicorn, has its own car park, (thank God) so it all just smoke and mirrors…all the bike lanes, the building works everything is just MCCs way of ruining a once fantatic place to live. It started when they stopped free parking which significantly reduced footfall to the village. But people kept coming though so now this.
Please wake up and take a good look around they’ ve been undermining the area for a decade. I fear it’s too late to take action. But there are plenty of other equally nice and eclectic places, sadly not in Manchester itself, but you know what they don’t deserve the rates of people who care about living somewhere pleasent. At least they’re leaving Didsbury alone. It’s a shame as they could ha e had two high class, high revenue towns long-term but they just don’t like Chorlton and what it offered.
By Anonymous
Same old same old.
By Ross
Let’s be clear- this is not a district centre , this is housing estate with a few shops thrown in. The only new green spaces are private gardens for residents ,( and a few trees along the new roads. There no public throughfare except along roads lined with houses. There is nowhere for people to co greater except on the existing linear strip along a busy Road. There are no community facilities and no work spaces. There is no space for cultural activities. If a public square does go shed won’t it look nice bordered by 9 stories of flats? Just take a look at the site and imagine its height from all angles. And of course infrastructure needs to be addressed.
By Anonymous
Echoing Emmas comment on consideration for public services infrastructure. Although the development looks great, the burden to provide GP services fall on the council and nhs which I can be almost certain this will not get any budget uplift to services. Who can explain the plans around this, the current GP practice is a horrific ordeal as it is…
By Anonymous
Have you produced a traffic impact report of the impact on traffic on the local road network of firstly the demolition of chorlton precinct and Graeme House. How much traffic will this generate and how long will it take to complete this? Also how much traffic will the construction of what you are proposing. From what I’ve seen this is not clear at all.
Presumably you will need to get planning permission from the city Council for your proposal. When you will be seeking this?
By Paul Murphy
It is noted that this is labelled as a shopping centre regeneration. There are not any shops featured . Only housing . Regeneration of a shopping centre should ideally be with a shopping centre.
Address and respond to the many concerns raised
1 size of retail / type of retail units
2 affordable carparking for residents of new build and shoppers
3 extra infrastructure for the increased number of residents
4 responsibility of contractors who profit from this redevelopment to support areas of Chorlton with communal areas lost from within precinct
5 support from redevelopment contractors for streamlined shop frontage in ” scruffy ” areas
some people stand to make a lot of money from this redevelopment and there needs to be accountability and long term planning for improvement of Chorlton centre as a whole
By Anonymous
So manchester city council pension fund will profit from this. How much of tax payers’ money has been wasted on cycle paths along Manchester Road when the plans include redirecting Manchester road? (at the expense of tax payers?)
By J. Mwanzia
This is not a “neighbourhood”. It’s highly unlikely that the residences will be truly affordable for the young local people who are priced out of renting in Chorlton! We are losing a variety of shops, Frosts, Boots, Timpsons, Quality Save, the fruit & veg shop amongst others & a large car park. All we have now is a majority of take aways, charity shops and bars. Cycle ways have taken up the road parking spaces & congestion is a nightmare & businesses are being affected. How will a housing development ,with all the associated cars, affect the already congested streets in the centre of Chorlton? It’s no wonder people are choosing to shop elsewhere where they can park easily.
By Anonymous